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October 5th, 2009:

Erin for 10/6

A lot of what I was thinking about this week had to do with how Whitman compares to other civil war poets. Since my presentation this week is on “other civil war poetry” I’ve been reading Drum-Taps with the other poets in mind. It’s still weird to me how often times Whitman seems like he’s on a completely different plane from everyone else. Stylistically and with subject matter, he’s in a league of his own.

Meg and I have noticed that most people writing civil war poetry were not writing from a position of experience, but most likely from their lazy boys by the fire. A lot of their poetry had to do with glorifying the war cause and trying to inspire people to go to battle. The most prominent writers were never involved in the war.

When I was reading “Song of the Banner at Daybreak” it seemed like a pretty direct criticism of those people. The pennant, calling the child to war and yet having nothing to do with the war in and of itself is saddening in a way. Especially with the father, trying desperately to make the child understand that the war isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, is a sad contrast.  Hardly any writers at the time seemed to be pointing out the utter pointlessness and brutality of the fighting going on, but Whitman went ahead and put it out there. “The Wound Dresser” is also a very direct attempt to portray the violence of the war. It’s almost like he’s using shock value to get his point across.

I also thought it was interesting how in several poems Whitman inserts direct speakers, something I hadn’t seen before. Perhaps this is an attempt to legitimize the points he’s attempting to make?

I definitely have a new respect for what Whitman was doing during this time period. Also, I would like to say that his poetry is LOADS better than a lot of other civil war writings we’ve come across. The awful rhyming…just awful. Also sometimes sickeningly patriotic, especially when considering how all these young boys were dying and people thought it was all for the glory of the union…just…ugh. So kudos to Whitman for stepping away from his grand vision of America to point out that this killing is senseless, yo.

Erin for 10/6

A lot of what I was thinking about this week had to do with how Whitman compares to other civil war poets. Since my presentation this week is on “other civil war poetry” I’ve been reading Drum-Taps with the other poets in mind. It’s still weird to me how often times Whitman seems like he’s on a completely different plane from everyone else. Stylistically and with subject matter, he’s in a league of his own.

Meg and I have noticed that most people writing civil war poetry were not writing from a position of experience, but most likely from their lazy boys by the fire. A lot of their poetry had to do with glorifying the war cause and trying to inspire people to go to battle. The most prominent writers were never involved in the war.

When I was reading “Song of the Banner at Daybreak” it seemed like a pretty direct criticism of those people. The pennant, calling the child to war and yet having nothing to do with the war in and of itself is saddening in a way. Especially with the father, trying desperately to make the child understand that the war isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, is a sad contrast.  Hardly any writers at the time seemed to be pointing out the utter pointlessness and brutality of the fighting going on, but Whitman went ahead and put it out there. “The Wound Dresser” is also a very direct attempt to portray the violence of the war. It’s almost like he’s using shock value to get his point across.

I also thought it was interesting how in several poems Whitman inserts direct speakers, something I hadn’t seen before. Perhaps this is an attempt to legitimize the points he’s attempting to make?

I definitely have a new respect for what Whitman was doing during this time period. Also, I would like to say that his poetry is LOADS better than a lot of other civil war writings we’ve come across. The awful rhyming…just awful. Also sometimes sickeningly patriotic, especially when considering how all these young boys were dying and people thought it was all for the glory of the union…just…ugh. So kudos to Whitman for stepping away from his grand vision of America to point out that this killing is senseless, yo.

Comments about Annotations

Hello All,

First off, I’d like to thank Jim Groom for working so hard to get the poems for the annotations posted so we could use them to present on our explications. Thank you for all your hard work!

Secondly, I went through the poems and noticed that because of WordPress’ lovely coding, linebreaks don’t work. So what I will do is use the good old quoting method to separate the stanzas. Between separate stanzas you will see “/” to indicate a break. Tonight I’m going to go through the poems and make sure the line breaks and grammar match our Library of America edition so that it won’t be off when anyone goes to annotate.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me or message me on here.

Thanks again to Jim Groom. Go Tech Team! (I’m tired, it’s been a day.)

Jamie

Jessica for October 6th

                This section of Whitman’s poetry was very patriotic and moving in many ways.  The individual poem that spoke to me directly was “Song of the Banner at Daybreak”.  Here Whitman uses five different perspectives of America, and what its freedom truly is, and what America’s message as a country truly is. 

                The poem has sections from the poet, the child, the father, the pennant, and the banner.  The poet begins observing the banner flapping in the wind.  Its flapping sound is the voices of the country, the land, and its people.  The pennant is calling to the child, and the child is responding.  The child is interested in the pennant and what it stands for, and the father tries to focus his child’s attention away from military interest, and towards the material things that he can aspire to gain.  “Look at these dazzling things in the houses, and see you the money-shops opening, And see you the vehicles preparing to crawl along the streets with goods; These, ah these, how valued and toil’d for these! How envied by all the earth.” (Whitman 422).  It may seem here that the father’s values are a bit skewed, but his intentions are probably aimed at keeping his child safe.  The prospect of his child going into the military is frightening for the father.  He wants his child to see all of the material possessions available to him, and how valued these possessions are by others.

                However, the child is enraptured by the pennant and believes it is calling to him and all the children of the country.  The poet agrees with the views of the child.  The poet sees “Liberty!” in the banner and pennant.   The poet sees a duty for the people of this country to fight for freedom.  Without people like the child, who see the glory and honor in fighting for this country, in representing this country, there wouldn’t be the freedom for others to have the material wealth they now posses.

                       “O banner, not money so precious are you, not farm produce you, nor the material good nutriment, Nor excellent stores, nor landed on wharves from the ships, not the superb ships with sail-power or steam-power, fetching and carrying cargoes, Nor machinery, vehicles, trade, nor revenues – but you as henceforth I see you, Running up out of the  night, bringing your cluster of stars, (ever-enlarging stars,) Divider of daybreak you, cutting the air, touch’d by the sun, measuring the sky, (Passionatly seen and yearn’d for by one poor little child, While others remain busy or smartly talking, forever teaching thrift, thrift;)…. Out of reach, an idea only, yet furiously fought for, risking bloody death, loved by me, So loved – O you banner leading the day with stars brought for the night!  Valueless object of eyes, over all and demanding all – (absolute owner of all) – O banner and pennant!  I too leave the rest – great as it is, it is nothing – houses, machines are nothing – I see them not, I see but you, O warlike pennant!  O banner so braod, with stripes, I sing you only, Flapping up there in the wind.” (Whitman 426).

                            Whitman writes so passionately about the country here.  One can read this poem and see Whitman as the poet, advocating patriotism and the honor in believing in the inherent values and ideals that this country was formed from.  The flag doesn’t represent the material goods or the machinery; these things are nothing.  The flag represents the honor in believing in freedom and liberty, and fighting for those rights.  Whitman is pleased that the child sees these things in the flag, and hears the song of the flag and wants to dance to that song for the freedom of our country. 

 

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Jessica for October 6th

                This section of Whitman’s poetry was very patriotic and moving in many ways.  The individual poem that spoke to me directly was “Song of the Banner at Daybreak”.  Here Whitman uses five different perspectives of America, and what its freedom truly is, and what America’s message as a country truly is. 

                The poem has sections from the poet, the child, the father, the pennant, and the banner.  The poet begins observing the banner flapping in the wind.  Its flapping sound is the voices of the country, the land, and its people.  The pennant is calling to the child, and the child is responding.  The child is interested in the pennant and what it stands for, and the father tries to focus his child’s attention away from military interest, and towards the material things that he can aspire to gain.  “Look at these dazzling things in the houses, and see you the money-shops opening, And see you the vehicles preparing to crawl along the streets with goods; These, ah these, how valued and toil’d for these! How envied by all the earth.” (Whitman 422).  It may seem here that the father’s values are a bit skewed, but his intentions are probably aimed at keeping his child safe.  The prospect of his child going into the military is frightening for the father.  He wants his child to see all of the material possessions available to him, and how valued these possessions are by others.

                However, the child is enraptured by the pennant and believes it is calling to him and all the children of the country.  The poet agrees with the views of the child.  The poet sees “Liberty!” in the banner and pennant.   The poet sees a duty for the people of this country to fight for freedom.  Without people like the child, who see the glory and honor in fighting for this country, in representing this country, there wouldn’t be the freedom for others to have the material wealth they now posses.

                       “O banner, not money so precious are you, not farm produce you, nor the material good nutriment, Nor excellent stores, nor landed on wharves from the ships, not the superb ships with sail-power or steam-power, fetching and carrying cargoes, Nor machinery, vehicles, trade, nor revenues – but you as henceforth I see you, Running up out of the  night, bringing your cluster of stars, (ever-enlarging stars,) Divider of daybreak you, cutting the air, touch’d by the sun, measuring the sky, (Passionatly seen and yearn’d for by one poor little child, While others remain busy or smartly talking, forever teaching thrift, thrift;)…. Out of reach, an idea only, yet furiously fought for, risking bloody death, loved by me, So loved – O you banner leading the day with stars brought for the night!  Valueless object of eyes, over all and demanding all – (absolute owner of all) – O banner and pennant!  I too leave the rest – great as it is, it is nothing – houses, machines are nothing – I see them not, I see but you, O warlike pennant!  O banner so braod, with stripes, I sing you only, Flapping up there in the wind.” (Whitman 426).

                            Whitman writes so passionately about the country here.  One can read this poem and see Whitman as the poet, advocating patriotism and the honor in believing in the inherent values and ideals that this country was formed from.  The flag doesn’t represent the material goods or the machinery; these things are nothing.  The flag represents the honor in believing in freedom and liberty, and fighting for those rights.  Whitman is pleased that the child sees these things in the flag, and hears the song of the flag and wants to dance to that song for the freedom of our country. 

 

flag-4-lincoln-hamlin

 

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Jessica for October 6th

                This section of Whitman’s poetry was very patriotic and moving in many ways.  The individual poem that spoke to me directly was “Song of the Banner at Daybreak”.  Here Whitman uses five different perspectives of America, and what its freedom truly is, and what America’s message as a country truly is. 

                The poem has sections from the poet, the child, the father, the pennant, and the banner.  The poet begins observing the banner flapping in the wind.  Its flapping sound is the voices of the country, the land, and its people.  The pennant is calling to the child, and the child is responding.  The child is interested in the pennant and what it stands for, and the father tries to focus his child’s attention away from military interest, and towards the material things that he can aspire to gain.  “Look at these dazzling things in the houses, and see you the money-shops opening, And see you the vehicles preparing to crawl along the streets with goods; These, ah these, how valued and toil’d for these! How envied by all the earth.” (Whitman 422).  It may seem here that the father’s values are a bit skewed, but his intentions are probably aimed at keeping his child safe.  The prospect of his child going into the military is frightening for the father.  He wants his child to see all of the material possessions available to him, and how valued these possessions are by others.

                However, the child is enraptured by the pennant and believes it is calling to him and all the children of the country.  The poet agrees with the views of the child.  The poet sees “Liberty!” in the banner and pennant.   The poet sees a duty for the people of this country to fight for freedom.  Without people like the child, who see the glory and honor in fighting for this country, in representing this country, there wouldn’t be the freedom for others to have the material wealth they now posses.

                       “O banner, not money so precious are you, not farm produce you, nor the material good nutriment, Nor excellent stores, nor landed on wharves from the ships, not the superb ships with sail-power or steam-power, fetching and carrying cargoes, Nor machinery, vehicles, trade, nor revenues – but you as henceforth I see you, Running up out of the  night, bringing your cluster of stars, (ever-enlarging stars,) Divider of daybreak you, cutting the air, touch’d by the sun, measuring the sky, (Passionatly seen and yearn’d for by one poor little child, While others remain busy or smartly talking, forever teaching thrift, thrift;)…. Out of reach, an idea only, yet furiously fought for, risking bloody death, loved by me, So loved – O you banner leading the day with stars brought for the night!  Valueless object of eyes, over all and demanding all – (absolute owner of all) – O banner and pennant!  I too leave the rest – great as it is, it is nothing – houses, machines are nothing – I see them not, I see but you, O warlike pennant!  O banner so braod, with stripes, I sing you only, Flapping up there in the wind.” (Whitman 426).

                            Whitman writes so passionately about the country here.  One can read this poem and see Whitman as the poet, advocating patriotism and the honor in believing in the inherent values and ideals that this country was formed from.  The flag doesn’t represent the material goods or the machinery; these things are nothing.  The flag represents the honor in believing in freedom and liberty, and fighting for those rights.  Whitman is pleased that the child sees these things in the flag, and hears the song of the flag and wants to dance to that song for the freedom of our country. 

 

flag-4-lincoln-hamlin

 

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Comments about Annotations

Hello All,

First off, I’d like to thank Jim Groom for working so hard to get the poems for the annotations posted so we could use them to present on our explications. Thank you for all your hard work!

Secondly, I went through the poems and noticed that because of WordPress’ lovely coding, linebreaks don’t work. So what I will do is use the good old quoting method to separate the stanzas. Between separate stanzas you will see “/” to indicate a break. Tonight I’m going to go through the poems and make sure the line breaks and grammar match our Library of America edition so that it won’t be off when anyone goes to annotate.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me or message me on here.

Thanks again to Jim Groom. Go Tech Team! (I’m tired, it’s been a day.)

Jamie

Comments about Annotations

Hello All,

First off, I’d like to thank Jim Groom for working so hard to get the poems for the annotations posted so we could use them to present on our explications. Thank you for all your hard work!

Secondly, I went through the poems and noticed that because of WordPress’ lovely coding, linebreaks don’t work. So what I will do is use the good old quoting method to separate the stanzas. Between separate stanzas you will see “/” to indicate a break. Tonight I’m going to go through the poems and make sure the line breaks and grammar match our Library of America edition so that it won’t be off when anyone goes to annotate.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me or message me on here.

Thanks again to Jim Groom. Go Tech Team! (I’m tired, it’s been a day.)

Jamie

Gods and Generals

In case you haven’t yet taken a look at this, here’s a nine-minute segment that follows the Union soldiers running up to Marye’s Heights and the Confederates firing down on them from behind the stone wall.

Gods and Generals

In case you haven’t yet taken a look at this, here’s a nine-minute segment that follows the Union soldiers running up to Marye’s Heights and the Confederates firing down on them from behind the stone wall.

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