Talk:Blog

Want to add a mention of first warblog

For the sake of history, I'd like to add a mention of the first known warblog that I have found, which I made public on the Internet at the same time as the 6 June 1996 website launch of www.birzeit.edu [1]. It had been written and coded since November 1995, but was not available online internationally until 6 June 1996. The Internet Archive Wayback Machine didn't pick up the blog for another four months, on the same day it picked up the main university website, 22 October 1996.

At that time it was located in a privately maintained subdirectory off Birzeit University's main website at birzeit.edu/diary/. LOL, can you imagine a university allowing that these days?

Here's a link to the blog homepage "A Personal Diary of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict", from the Internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/19961022110437/http://www.birzeit.edu/diary/

Here's a link to the *dated* diary entries from the Internet archive at the time of the first Internet Archive capture: https://web.archive.org/web/19961022075829/http://www.birzeit.edu/diary/index2.html

Here's a link to the *dated* diary entries as of 1999 (pretty much the end of the warblog) from the Internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/19991128043733/http://www.birzeit.edu/diary/index2.html

[1] Referenced on the university homepage at: https://web.archive.org/web/19961022073730/http://www.birzeit.edu/index.html

Anyway....

Flyingmonkeyairlines (talk) 17:53, 13 July 2019 (CST)

Statistics woefully out of date

I was just looking at the stats at the end of the first section, which includes the statement "Blogger is the most popular blogging service used today." First, at the end of 2022, that surely cannot be the case? (The stats cited are from 2010 and 2014.) But it also seems like a statement that could only be true at a point in time, but is stated as "today". I think I'm going to go and see if I can find better stats, but turn today into a statement as of 2010 and 2014 as a starting point. Njradcliffe (talk) 08:54, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

The line between blogs and websites has been blurred as Wordpress has become the new Dreamweaver for web developers in that they can rapidly build a new websites with it. There are also some e-commerce add-ons that enable a site to trade. This makes distinguishing a blog from a working website more difficult. The only reliable estimate might be the number of sites built with Wordpress if the people running the survey are competent. A .BLOG gTLD was launched as part of the 2012 round of new gTLDs by ICANN. It is getting some usage. I'd be very wary of including the stuff from W3Techs as it isn't a large enough sample of websites. If there are any stats from Google, it might be worth including them. However, many blogs rarely get beyond the hello world post. Jmccormac (talk) 18:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree. But the stats are still crazily outdated and very implausible for today. We could just take the stats out, since they're so out-of-date, I suppose. Or find more plausible/reputable sources. https://bloggingwizard.com/blogging-statistics/ has some interesting-looking stats, and cites at least some of its sources, e.g. Statista. I'll do a bit more digging. Sure feels like there's a lot of Wordpress out there, and a lot of activity on Medium; Blogger not so much.

Njradcliffe (talk) 19:26, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

That's a terrifying mix of figures drawn together to make a post. There is very little reliable data on the actual number of blogs. Blogs on a subdomain are more difficult to measure than blogs on their own distinct domain name. The figures from Wordpress would be more reliable but it gets down to how the WP software is being used. Most new WP sites may not be blogs but rather small business sites. Adding DIY website builders like Bloggingwizard did is wrong. There are other DIY site builders and many large registrars and hosters have their own site builder software. These are aimed at SMEs rather than bloggers. These registrars/hosters also have Wordpress available as installable software.The .BLOG gTLD has about 197K registrations but not all of them are active or developed into working blogs. Jmccormac (talk) 19:53, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Shall we just delete the stats then? They're 8-9 years out of date, and there doesn't seem any more reason to trust them than any contemporary ones we can find.

Njradcliffe (talk) 21:38, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Rephrasing them as historical stats might also work. That way, if some new reliable stats emerge, there's a reference so that people can see if there is a growth or decline in blogs. Jmccormac (talk) 21:50, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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